My research into the Ancient Greeks, has led me to the conclusion that they are the close cousins of the Ethiopians. This can now be verified by DNA science and also by the great Greek Historian; Plutarch who had written about a certain Greek woman that had given birth to a black child; when accused of adultery, it was discovered that she was descended in the fourth generation from an Ethiopian.
The fame of the Ethiopians, as a civilized people, had forced its way to Greece in the time of Homer, and referred pre-eminently, as we have shown above, to Meroe. The hundred-gated Thebes is celebrated by the same poet.
Historically, Black Greek organizations were the most powerful Black organizations in our U.S. Universities. The same Universities that brought us our current President, Barack Obama. This makes sense, because my Greek family had helped form the first universities in the world such as the University of Paris (c. 1150, later associated with the Sorbonne).
Plutarch had this to say about a Greek woman who had given birth to a black child, in his book: On the delay of the divine justice;
“as the warts and birth-stains and freckles of fathers, not appearing in their own children, crop out again in the children of their sons and daughters; as a certain Greek woman, giving birth to a black child, when accused, of adultery, discovered that she was descended in the fourth generation from an Aethiopian; as among the children of Pytho the Nisibian, said to belong to the Sparti, the one who died lately bore the impress of a spear on his body, — a race-mark after so many ages rising and emerging as from the depths of the sea, — so not infrequently earlier generations conceal and merge ancestral habits and dispositions, while afterward and through later generations the inherited nature comes to flower, and reproduces the family tendency to vice or to virtue.The armed men that sprang from the teeth of the dragon sown by Cadmus, from whom the oldest families in Thebes — a large part of the Boeotian aristocracy — were said to have descended. Something like this mythical birthmark had probably made its appearance on the body of a member of one of these ancient families. Nisibis was a Syrian city with an extensive commerce, with many Greek, and probably some Boeotian immigrants.
It may be that, in cases where the inheritance of a morbid physical constitution, or of proclivity to moral evil, seems to lapse in the first generation and to reappear in the second, the children of the diseased or depraved father have the physical or moral traits of their father, but are made and kept vigilant and faithful in self-care and self-discipline by the memory of their father’s infirmities or sins ; while their children have the inheritance without the warning.”
Now, with Plutarch’s history coupled with DNA science, we can now discover the actual truth behind some of these stories and myths.
I’m using science to help confirm the stories left by my ancestors such as Plutarch. For example, my paternal YDNA haplogroup is E1b1b1b2a* E-M123 (Formerly “E1b1b1c“)and is found widely in Europe, North Africa and the Middle East. You can see the results of my DNA test here, https://www.gnosticwarrior.com/maurice-bedard-e1b1b1c-ydna.html. My certificate clearly states that I AM Phoenician, Hellenes (Greek) or the Celts. Then in researching this Haplogroup, I have come to the understanding that this haplogroup is the father of Ethiopians, and it appears that my ancestors were involved in the forming of the Ethiopian people. Hence, they may be the father via E-M123 which created the subclade E-M34 and various tribes making the Israelites.
In my next article on this subject, I will attempt to explain these Greek and Ethiopian connections using both history and science.
Moe is the founder of GnosticWarrior.com. He is a father, husband, author, martial arts black belt, and an expert in Gnosticism, the occult, and esotericism.
Haemus natives are recognizable by the genes they carry. E1b1b and J2 are neolithic markers who’s subclades mutated unique features in the Greek peninsula. It must be stressed though…genetic markers denote origin only, that is place of origin, not ethnic-racial origin. And when Genes mutate, they are no longer backwards-compatible. E1b1b (V13) from the Haemus does not compare to E1b1b from elsehwere. On the subject of ethnicity, well this is difficult subject to discuss, something cultural, something learned, under strict authoritarian conditions, or not.
If the peoples of the Haemus [Greek] peninsula derive from same gene pool…what is it that makes them Greek then. To know that, requires extensive backround knowledge on Hellenism and Hellenic peoples.
Greeks, since the beginning, have been a seafaring international-peoples. Consequently, Greeks met and intermingled with a great variety of foreign peoples. Greeks are said to be ‘cousins’ to a great variety of other peoples.
The Greek character having formed over millennia, can be summarized as being multi-layered and multifaceted. Most people see Greek-peoples like Mediterraneans, but there is more.
Mediterranean: Greeks could be clustered together with Italians, Maltese, Spaniards, Portuguese, and to a lesser extent, the French…within the framework of a Greater Greaco-Roman Mediterranean civilization.
Western European: Since, in the West, Greece is considered to be the cradle of Western civilization.
Eastern European: Since Greece is situated there and Greeks Baptized, Christianized and Civilized the Slavic-Tribes to Greek Orthodox Christendom, the religion of Byzantium, the Eastern-Roman Empire.
Middle-Eastern: Since Greek expansion into Asia-Minor and beyond, ensured prolonged ties with Eastern Cultures and Oriental ones.
Balkanian: Greeks are not comfortable with this Turkic term. Greeks prefer Haemus-Native instead. Anyway, a Balkanian Identity similar to that of Albanians, Serbians, Croatians, Montinegrins, Slovenians, Bulgarians, FYRoMians, Romanians, does exist. There are common elements, contributions from the Eastern Roman Empire and from Ottoman Empire. Shared common cultural themes, manerisms, morphology, and folkloric synergies bear testament to long-time exposure between like-minded people-groups.
Greeks have always been an International Peoples, since time immemorial. The Greek Character is multi-layered and multifaceted, drawing in embedded experiences from five different geographical locations.
Greeks were never restricted to one particular country, there were no countries with fixed border’s in ancient times. Greece in ancient times could be visualized spanning from Spain in the West to Georgia in the East. There was never a country called Greece in ancient times. Instead, there were many Greeks inhabiting many regions in Evropi and beyond.
I don’t think it is likely that the two groups are linked, other than sharing genetic markers as the result of one group interbreeding with the other at some historical point amongst small segments of the population. African DNA is much different than European DNA; we only need to look at the superior level of IQ/cultural/civilization output of the latter to figure that out. No modern and urban African society can support itself without the help of white professionals to fun the society.
Additionally, a person with as little as 25% African DNA is usually phenotypically African in terms of facial features, so it is unlikely that a large percentage of DNA is shared without being phenotypically obvious. There’s a difference between sharing DNA markers in a high percentage and sharing the actual quantitative among of DNA with another group.
You do not “think” but I know via DNA science which cannot be refuted. It wasn’t the Europeans who brought culture and arts to Europe, but the Phoenicians who came from North Africa and Egypt. The same people who had founded Greece, Rome, France, the United States and many other countries.
In regards to facial features etc., much of our DNA is so mixed and mashed that we are basically walking racial hybrids with various races and blood running through our veins. Our physical features will depend on these races and also the area of the world in which we live because our environments affect our physical features such as skin color and eye color over time. Hence, a race that was once dark skinned will over time turn white in the colder regions of the world and vice versa if they were to move from cold to a hot climate.
My mother used to make fun of me and my features like my larger lips and nose. I’m a Phoenician that comes from North Africa that was aligned with the Ethiopians, Greeks, Hittites and Egyptians while in Africa. Hence, I AM a mix of these races.
The Phoenicians originally came from the far north, which should be obvious if you study their mythology and sun worship; they are not indigenous to the Middle East. The Egyptian civilization, like the Hindu, is the product of Caucasians.
Genetic flow maps clearly establish that Greece and Rome were established by an aristocratic class which was predominantly Nordic; look at the facial features of the busts of Greek and Roman emperors. Do you see African traits?
No theory I am familiar with says that the Phoenicians established all of the countries you listed, I’m not even sure how that would be possible unless they walked around the whole planet like vagrants looking for something better to do with their life from stop to stop.
The Phoenicians did not come from the far north. The ancient traditions of the Persians and the Phoenicians themselves says the came from the Red Sea to the Mediterranean Sea. They were a seafaring people and all major Phoenician colonies were situated along the coastline of the Mediterranean.Per Sir Isaac Newton, Herodotus relates that the Phoenicians came from the Red Sea to the Mediterranean Sea. {*Herodotus, i. 7. c. 89. 3:395}. Thebes was founded by a Phoenician Prince names Cadmus whose father was a Phoenicians King. Alexandria, Egypt, and Carthage, were all colonies built by the Phoenicians.
Around 1200 BC, the Phoenicians established colonies on Sicily and Italy. Later most of their ideas were used by Latins in establishing Rome founded in 753 BC by “the legend” of the twins named Romulus and Remus.They are descendants of the Trojan prince and refugee Aeneas. Troy was in modern day Turkey where I think the Phoenicians were as well based on my DNA findings.
The Nordics did not come into Rome until it was sacked by the Visigoths who sacked Rome in 410 AD.
My DNA verified by science says I AM Phoenician, Celtic and Greek Hellenes.
Hear hear Moe! Bob is relying on pseudo facts and fallacy to substantiate such a nonsensical comment. Bob should pick up and read a history book. Current societal, architectural, and religious norms have been traced to Ancient African cultures such as Egyptians, Nubians, and Ethiopians.
The Great African
on November 10, 2015 at 12:51 pm
Bob, could u please explain “African traits” to me. Plus, Caucasian is a recent invention, and they had nothing to do with anyone in Ancient history. They are albinos from central Asia, probably of Dravidalian Indian Albino decent
now be verified by DNA science and also by the great Greek Historian; Plutarch who had written about a certain Greek woman that had given birth to a black child; when accused of adultery, it was discovered that she was descended in the fourth generation from an Ethiopian.
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Haemus natives are recognizable by the genes they carry. E1b1b and J2 are neolithic markers who’s subclades mutated unique features in the Greek peninsula. It must be stressed though…genetic markers denote origin only, that is place of origin, not ethnic-racial origin. And when Genes mutate, they are no longer backwards-compatible. E1b1b (V13) from the Haemus does not compare to E1b1b from elsehwere. On the subject of ethnicity, well this is difficult subject to discuss, something cultural, something learned, under strict authoritarian conditions, or not.
If the peoples of the Haemus [Greek] peninsula derive from same gene pool…what is it that makes them Greek then. To know that, requires extensive backround knowledge on Hellenism and Hellenic peoples.
Greeks, since the beginning, have been a seafaring international-peoples. Consequently, Greeks met and intermingled with a great variety of foreign peoples. Greeks are said to be ‘cousins’ to a great variety of other peoples.
The Greek character having formed over millennia, can be summarized as being multi-layered and multifaceted. Most people see Greek-peoples like Mediterraneans, but there is more.
Mediterranean: Greeks could be clustered together with Italians, Maltese, Spaniards, Portuguese, and to a lesser extent, the French…within the framework of a Greater Greaco-Roman Mediterranean civilization.
Western European: Since, in the West, Greece is considered to be the cradle of Western civilization.
Eastern European: Since Greece is situated there and Greeks Baptized, Christianized and Civilized the Slavic-Tribes to Greek Orthodox Christendom, the religion of Byzantium, the Eastern-Roman Empire.
Middle-Eastern: Since Greek expansion into Asia-Minor and beyond, ensured prolonged ties with Eastern Cultures and Oriental ones.
Balkanian: Greeks are not comfortable with this Turkic term. Greeks prefer Haemus-Native instead. Anyway, a Balkanian Identity similar to that of Albanians, Serbians, Croatians, Montinegrins, Slovenians, Bulgarians, FYRoMians, Romanians, does exist. There are common elements, contributions from the Eastern Roman Empire and from Ottoman Empire. Shared common cultural themes, manerisms, morphology, and folkloric synergies bear testament to long-time exposure between like-minded people-groups.
Greeks have always been an International Peoples, since time immemorial. The Greek Character is multi-layered and multifaceted, drawing in embedded experiences from five different geographical locations.
Greeks were never restricted to one particular country, there were no countries with fixed border’s in ancient times. Greece in ancient times could be visualized spanning from Spain in the West to Georgia in the East. There was never a country called Greece in ancient times. Instead, there were many Greeks inhabiting many regions in Evropi and beyond.
I don’t think it is likely that the two groups are linked, other than sharing genetic markers as the result of one group interbreeding with the other at some historical point amongst small segments of the population. African DNA is much different than European DNA; we only need to look at the superior level of IQ/cultural/civilization output of the latter to figure that out. No modern and urban African society can support itself without the help of white professionals to fun the society.
Additionally, a person with as little as 25% African DNA is usually phenotypically African in terms of facial features, so it is unlikely that a large percentage of DNA is shared without being phenotypically obvious. There’s a difference between sharing DNA markers in a high percentage and sharing the actual quantitative among of DNA with another group.
You do not “think” but I know via DNA science which cannot be refuted. It wasn’t the Europeans who brought culture and arts to Europe, but the Phoenicians who came from North Africa and Egypt. The same people who had founded Greece, Rome, France, the United States and many other countries.
In regards to facial features etc., much of our DNA is so mixed and mashed that we are basically walking racial hybrids with various races and blood running through our veins. Our physical features will depend on these races and also the area of the world in which we live because our environments affect our physical features such as skin color and eye color over time. Hence, a race that was once dark skinned will over time turn white in the colder regions of the world and vice versa if they were to move from cold to a hot climate.
My mother used to make fun of me and my features like my larger lips and nose. I’m a Phoenician that comes from North Africa that was aligned with the Ethiopians, Greeks, Hittites and Egyptians while in Africa. Hence, I AM a mix of these races.
The Phoenicians originally came from the far north, which should be obvious if you study their mythology and sun worship; they are not indigenous to the Middle East. The Egyptian civilization, like the Hindu, is the product of Caucasians.
Genetic flow maps clearly establish that Greece and Rome were established by an aristocratic class which was predominantly Nordic; look at the facial features of the busts of Greek and Roman emperors. Do you see African traits?
No theory I am familiar with says that the Phoenicians established all of the countries you listed, I’m not even sure how that would be possible unless they walked around the whole planet like vagrants looking for something better to do with their life from stop to stop.
The Phoenicians did not come from the far north. The ancient traditions of the Persians and the Phoenicians themselves says the came from the Red Sea to the Mediterranean Sea. They were a seafaring people and all major Phoenician colonies were situated along the coastline of the Mediterranean.Per Sir Isaac Newton, Herodotus relates that the Phoenicians came from the Red Sea to the Mediterranean Sea. {*Herodotus, i. 7. c. 89. 3:395}. Thebes was founded by a Phoenician Prince names Cadmus whose father was a Phoenicians King. Alexandria, Egypt, and Carthage, were all colonies built by the Phoenicians.
Around 1200 BC, the Phoenicians established colonies on Sicily and Italy. Later most of their ideas were used by Latins in establishing Rome founded in 753 BC by “the legend” of the twins named Romulus and Remus.They are descendants of the Trojan prince and refugee Aeneas. Troy was in modern day Turkey where I think the Phoenicians were as well based on my DNA findings.
The Nordics did not come into Rome until it was sacked by the Visigoths who sacked Rome in 410 AD.
My DNA verified by science says I AM Phoenician, Celtic and Greek Hellenes.
https://www.gnosticwarrior.com/maurice-bedard-e1b1b1c-ydna.html
Hence, I think you need to study more or fire your teacher because your information is simply incorrect.
You are correct Moe…That is the way it happens
Hear hear Moe! Bob is relying on pseudo facts and fallacy to substantiate such a nonsensical comment. Bob should pick up and read a history book. Current societal, architectural, and religious norms have been traced to Ancient African cultures such as Egyptians, Nubians, and Ethiopians.
Bob, could u please explain “African traits” to me. Plus, Caucasian is a recent invention, and they had nothing to do with anyone in Ancient history. They are albinos from central Asia, probably of Dravidalian Indian Albino decent
Interesting this article! wait for the next information that is fantastico!
Obrigado bro!